That's really sad. I'm going to be compared to this lady now when people ask me if I'm religious. Too bad for the kid too.

So is he serious? If someone was taping it, it makes me think it might have been staged.

That's pretty silly... The kid looks like he's doing it just to wind his mum up.

good for him. every thing on the internet about christianity is negitive because it not real. come on people come to your senses there is no such thing as a all ruling wholly lord(god)

Mohamed, you just made me laugh very hard. You just said going to hell was like being gay. , but in your next line you contradict yourself and say "people can believe what they want to" First off, i ask you, can people be gay as long as they believe in it and secondly if an Atheist doesn't believe in hell, will he or she go there, by your reasoning, they won't, as they don't believe in it.

What?! Nothing for Christmas?! In that case, I believe. Excellent approach, Mom!

hahahahaha thats f@#cking awesome dude Way to go.
i know how you feel

Christmass is about Jesus? Have you done your homework?

THAT MOTHER IS SICK. FREEDOM OF RELIGION KISS MY ASS. SICK CHRISTIAN FUCK BITCH. I WISH I WAS THERE, I'D KICK HER FUCKING ASS, I HOPE SHE DIES AND GOES TO HELL.

THIS VID REALLY PISSES ME OFF, AS DO CHRISTIAN BITCHES.

f*** god

john the baptist was christ's gay lover!

i could've written a better bible!

no way it should've taken moses and co. forty years to cross that sand.

blah blah blah

haha, funny

to the person who thinks it may have been staged, i doubt it..

it looks like one of his brothers got out the camera as he was being yelled at

xD, so did he like, just go up to his mom and be all "im atheist"?
my parents found out my disbelief through myspace, xD

Aaahahahahahahahaha.

Awesome.

"FINE!"
"no, it's NOT FINE!"

Beautiful.

There is a God, or god, if you prefer. He took some matter and energy and created an evolving universe which eventually evolved man, in sort of the same way that I take eggs, flour, butter and other stuff, mix them together and allow them to evolve into a cake. I know it turns into cake the same way god knows that what he did turns into a universe with life given enought time and the right ingredients mixed in the correct way.

Some people who lived thousands of years ago and knew so little they didn't even know Earth is a globe thought differently but they had to tell their kids something when asked "How did I come to exist?" and the Genesis story was the best they could come up with given their limited understanding of the natural world.

Today, those of us who approach knowledge with an open mind know it didn't happen exactly the way it happened in Genesis and that god likely isn't the god depicted in the bible. And we accept people who don't believe in the god the bible portrays. Jesus Christ didn't accept that god either. All of his teaching's were essentially a rejection of the Old Testament which is one of the reasons why the priests had him crucified . Believe in Jesus and if you can't then that's cool too. Just be a good person, that's all he ever asked. That's all he ever wanted. He has some good suggestions on how you can become a nicer person if you take the time to read the gospel. And don't get all hung up on that "Jesus died for our sins" crap. That's just a guilt trip today's priests/ministers/k00ks use.

Be very wary of the folks who tell you everything happened exactly the way it is told in the bible and that you'll go to hell if you don't believe it. I know it did not happen that way because god spoke to me and told me he used the process we call evolution and that it took billions of years. Now all you bible thumpers just go ahead and make total fools of yourselves telling the world you *know* god didn't speak to me because if he had then he would have told me evolution is wrong :) You believe it but you don't really know it. So act accordingly or the rest of us will just laugh our asses off at you.

Vlad, the problem is, the most vocal of either community don't usually hold those standards. The vocal ones are usually hold the more hypocritical, extreme versions opinions. The internet and its anonymity makes it easy to express those opinions, so people can propose their less tolerant views without having social consequences.

What a riot. So much for being a religion of peace and understanding. Hypochristianical.

The web is atheist! And I'm very happy bout it.

You know, i was brought up Christian-catholic and my family is rather into their faith, not hardcore church goers but every baby has been baptized and whatnot, and then there is me...the little agnostic who is more about literal translation than metaphorical. I think there is a stronger force out there, but I wouldn't call it a "GOD" I believe everything has an explanation, we just haven't gotton so far in life as to explain it all. What we can't explain, we call either a miracle, or a tragedy. "Why did God do this to me?" "What would Jesus do?" Lame questions. To me, i think Believing in something like a GOD just gives people someone else to blame but themselves for the wrong-doings, and someone to give credit to when something goes right. A boy wakes up from a coma after 2 years and the response is "thank god!"...why?! why not thank the doctors that attended to his every will within the year? I respect those who believe in God and have a set faith, as we all should for any religion. I just don't think that what you're grown up to know, shouldn't be your only option.

I'm the black sheep of my family if you can't tell :)

Just as many atheists/agnostics rob, rape, and murder? Where are you getting this from? Is this something made up by you? And the kids that were part of the columbine were religious because they thought what they were doing was heroic and they would be remembered forever. They were part of religious family's and one of them was even part of a Jewish faith. It has been proven and is in many articles. Some people hate religion because of the false hope it promises you, but a lot hate it because religion at times uses the fear of going to hell to tame and keep you in the religion so you don't go to the bad place. Atheists believe neither and live a more free life.

"Be very wary of the folks who tell you everything happened exactly the way it is told in the bible and that you'll go to hell if you don't believe it. I know it did not happen that way because god spoke to me and told me he used the process we call evolution and that it took billions of years."

Well the basis of the bible is direct communication with god/jesus/angels etc. so how is that any different. Also, hearing voices is a worrying sign and may indicate mental health problems. Just a thought. Have those who believe in a creation now accepted the evident strength of the theories relating to the evolution of the universe and of life on this planet? I find it amusing that some Christians have now conveniently relegated their particular deity to pushing the switch that starts the process.

This woman is a particularly odious example of the prejudices and lunatic theologies routinely forced upon children by parents who have forgotten that they have a duty to foster an independent and inquiring intellect in their children. They have every right to their beliefs but to force them on children is tantamount to abuse.

a·the·ist-a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings. (( i looked it up on dictionary.com )) now... the reason christians are viewed in a bad sence, is when they hear someone say "I'm Atheist" some of them will gasp, then try to force god onto the other with threats of going to this so called "hell" and what not... in other words they go into bitch mode just like in the video. and as far as the crimes... my roommate is a prison guard.. and 99% of the prisoners are godloving/following christians or what ever. they actively read a bible.. and attend church services. now, we dont choose to be atheist because it lets us live easier, its true.. i would rather live with no worries then have to watch my every step so i can go to "heaven" and be a devoted follower of this so called "All loving God" do as he commands, no questions just a yes sir, right away sir... you know... that sounds ALLOT like slavery. i was born in a christian family, i was babtised... but as i grew up i start to compare stories of the bible.. and realised the bible goes against itself ALOT. key thing.. it says god is all loving and all forgiving.. ya, well then WHY THE FUCK ARENT WE BACK IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN?!?!? that right there nearly proves the non-existance of your supreme being.. or how about this.. when someone tells you they have something, or they have done something.. you dont believe them unless they have proof, where is the proof god exists? a child wakes from a comma after a couple of years? no, thats because the hospital kept him alive. if they left it for god to handle the boy would have died a long time ago... or how about someone gets into a wreck and comes out unharmed? its been proven that if something happens to the human body quicker then the brain has time to react, the body takes ALOT less damage. when good things go right, you thank god, why? you dont show the gratitude to the people who actually did something, you give the thanks to the being that was just a thought in the air, but if something goes wrong.. you blame people, unless the wrong was something no one else was involved in, then you blame "gods plan" when you cant find someone to blame. where is the proof of your god? a good feeling you get? im atheist and i get the same good feeling as when i was set on there being a god, that excuse doesnt work... miracles happen? come on... use some f***ing commen sence, most of the miracles only happen because of HUMANS not god.. keeping the person alive before the supposed miracle happened. if it wasnt for that the person would more then likely die and people would be blamed for NOT helping. and being Gay isnt bad.. so a guy likes to do a little suckysucky.. big deal... you dont see people bitching about things straight people do that are out of the normal.. and Atheists are just people who have grown up past the religion... you think Atheists get it better.. well when something goes right, we got people to thank.. when things go wrong, we got people to blame, we follow rules here in the real world that will really effect your life. in religion.. when something goes right you "thank" the people who helped, but you are giving credit to the "devine being" that actually did nothing but remain a thought in the air, you follow rules and live by a BOOK, staying clear off the ice so you can have a supposed better after life that has no real garontee of being.. Atheists live the life we got now. i would rather have fun in this life, knowing that ill get to have the fun.. and take what ever i get next life, if i go to this so called heaven im going to be more or less a slave to this god, doing every thing he says, got to memorize the bible.. and allot of other non-fun stuff (thats what i was taught). but if im entended for hell.. im f***ed either way so might as well have fun while im here. i would rather get to the next life, wether its painfull or boring.. and know that before i went i had a great life... unlike allot of others that stayed in the shallow end of the pool never doing anything to push the limits, just to ensure they have a place in their fictional after life. oh.. but what about people that have seen it... come on... dreams can be very realistic, i have had dreams myself that i could have sworn were real. im sure everyone has had one of those at one point or another.. and the stories you do hear of near death.. pay attention, not long after they have the "vision" they wake up. in a comma i believe as you come out of it, you go from a comma to just a normal sleeping state.. wich you would be able to dream in.. then you wake up. but there is a freedom of religion. believe what you want, or not.

Christmas has become so gift and present orientated that it has litte or nothing to do with the birth of "jesus" anymore... i bet some people don't even know what christmas is celebrated!! and p.s god doesn't exist... and i dont believe in heaven or hell so i won't go to either one, i just wanna be either eaten by worms and maggots or be burn to a cinder... =D

does she thinks he is going to believe in God if she acts like that? you can't push somebody to believe you have to be patience

Being "a" God, I can see why she might be so adamant of her son's beliefs. Her God must be the vengeful and will hate you if you "aren't-their-friend-anymore" type of God. Those guys are pricks, I used to be one, and then I found out that it is so much easier to not care what your followers think about you, because they will think whatever you tell them, and also will do (as free-will dictates) anything they want. Worship isn't something that is obligated, just look at Scientology, they don't really worship and yet they have their strong belief system. The Flying Spaghetti Monster's peeps are the bomb, and all they do is fast on only meatballs for a week as homage. My own followers don't do anything really, just sort of sit around and talk to me every now and then, ask for s*** I can't give them, get pi**ed when they find out I don't "do" that sort of thing, and then beg forgiveness when I choose to ignore them. I guess I'm sort of the black sheep of the Gods. Oh and there are plenty of us, just ask around, I'm sure about 1 in every 500,340,223 of you humans will be one at least twice in your soul's cycle, look forward to it, you live FOREVER and you can actually do most of those silly Chuck Norris jokes.

Now then, I just love these long winded entirely pointless speeches, just so you guys know, yes, somebody does read these, but I think it's a simple enough issue. First of all, the vid is hilarious because the mom flips out, could have been about anything, not just religion. Second, you guys are taking the few who extremely protest their opposites and taking them as representatives of a huge group. There is such a thing as gray (trust me, I checked).

you better balls up. you're about to get f***ed out of alot of presents.

lose the stupid ad that hurts my eyes!
cool video btw

It doesn't matter if there is or isn't a god. If you want to believe in it, fine. If not, great. But everyone can think what they want, including kids. I personally don't think that if there is a god, he cares if you say "f***" even in your prayers, but it is still hilarious that the mom flies off the handle and says the most offensive word in the Enligsh language to tell her son that he sure as hell does believe in god. And, just because the kid was put through some stupid ritual doesn't mean he believed in the significance of it. I was baptised into the Mormon church when I was eight without knowing what the hell was going on, only that it was what my parents expected of me. I personally think that if a person wants to become part of a religion, they shouldn't do it until they are old enough to know what it means.

haha, you people are so gullible, don't believe everything you see on the internet!

hahaha she's a bitch.

You know, I can honestly say i'm agnostic. I believe in something, it's just not defined very clearly and it's my own thoughts put together. However, i was raised to be Christian and i respect my families Faith, because despite the religious differences and beliefs, they are in fact my family and as long as the respect goes both ways I'm fine. However i've seen one family, in which a mother very similar to the one above, started yelling at her daughter. Her daughter told a small lie about a cankar sore in her mouth..something about not telling her mom and she said she did, yea i dont know, but the things that came out of the mother's mouth was CRAZY! "YOu're acting like a little bitch and a BAD CHRISTIAN. God doesn't like Liars. You are a BAD CHRISTIAN" Now, this girl was 9 years old. Just old enough to really start believing in something and go forth with her religious pathways (communion, confirmation..etc...) for someone to outright tell you that you SUCK at what you believe in because of a little white lie is outrageous. Hense why i stick to my own guns, i mind my own business and if people ask, i tell, without detail and without option of further interrogation, If you ask me it's no one elses business what religion you are.

the very reason why I dont go to church...people like that

As William wrote:

"The Bible says in Romans 1:18-20 that

"..What may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse."

http://www.absolutetruth.net/truth/

This website can't convince you, but God can."

this website isnt convincing me... and you trying to force religion isnt helping.. and where is god so he can "lead" me to his so called path? i know it seems like im forcing my beliefes... well for this thread, i guess i am... the world would be a much better place with out religion. because then people can kill and not lie about why they are doing it. its only a matter of time before allot of the religions are just little groups. more and more of todays youth is loosing their "faith". i dont have a single friend that believes in god. have a few that are pagen. but most are agnostic and athiest. and most of the people my age i meet are either doubting their religion. or have already left it to live the life they have now.

i personally find ni&&er to be more offensive than f****

so wheres the scientific proof?

god created man, man created machine, machine created internet and dissed god

I love how she threatens him with Chistmas

I can't wait for the day when everyone else realizes they've wasted their entire lives believing in some all powerful being that created the entire universe, yada yada yada. I come from a very religious family, complete with 3 pastors, so I can say that yes, that bitch is definitely christian. It's a perfect example of how hypocritical christians really are. Believe in god, or you don't get a Christmas! Fuck her.

have you guys ever read the bible theres some pretty f***ed up stuff going on there i mean it says you can have slaves from neighboring nations or sell your daughter into slavery or kill your kid if hes sinful i mean if you really want more people to be atheist i think they should just read the bible its one of the most sexist and immoral books written pick it up yourself!

See this is why it's so f***ed up that parents have to mandate a religion before a child can think for themselves. Hell I know I was under the same s*** of having NO CHOICE in my beliefs as a catholic until I grew the f*** up and learned all the other faiths and beliefs outside the christian church and I can't honestly say I'm catholic anymore based on how much more accepting I have evolved once exposed to many other truths. Parents why don't you let your children be their own people and let them decide what they believe when they grow old enough to reason and think?

xocourageox well said my person, well said!

best comment = brian

Staged.

Atheists are going to hell end of story. All Scripture is God-Breathed. It is absolutely necessary to believe in God.

so sad how he tells her his beliefs, even though he probably knew she'd react like this, and she not only yells the s*** outta him, but she acts like the worst thing she can do is take away his christmas presents?

after all that the material presents are supposed to be the most important thing?

and plus, she isn't NEARLY as good a christian as she thinks she is...... i mean, what she's doing sounds just the TEENIEST bit like wrath, aye? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins#Wrath_.28Latin.2C_ira.29 (particularly genocide...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide)

and to "Random Christian"---

f*** you.
you should be more opened minded and stop being such an opinionated idiot, thanks.

ahh, yes, i remember this forum well. good discussion too. except for a few "douchebags" like "random christian" we have a good debate. and the first issue i will adress is the wonderfully apt post by MT39. ok, first off, as many have said, an atheist is someone who does not believe in any supreme being or power(too lazy to quote verbatim). obviously God must believe in himself to exist. the possibility of him NOT believing in himself brings up quite a few paradoxes I don't want to think about. "1.)God knows everything which means that God does not have faith because God knows all the answers."(MT39) then shortly after, "If you say otherwise to number 1 or 2 then you in effect disprove the omnipotence of God."(MT39) WELL, i disagree with number 1. and btw, i dont disprove the existance of God's omnipotence, because your statement contains falsehoods. yes, God does know all the answers. and yes, God knows everything. but God does have faith. he has faith in us. in himself. ect. you forget that God does not exist in the same sense as us. he is not bound by the same means as us. he has defied gravity, made corpses unbound by decay, and many other miracles that science cannot explain. and fyi, you obviously have faith in an outcome if you know the result. and I have already touched on your second point, that God believes in himself, a "supreme being".

and parents should "mandate" a religion because it gives structure to the upbringing of a child. plus, i you ARE married catholic, you must promise to raise them catholic. raising a child with religion has an added effect of teaching them morals(omg, that is so horrible, i know) and gives good reason for it. in later education, the child WILL learn about other religions, both in school and outside of school. yea, Im done.

ahh, but the problem with that is that in order to get into heaven she would spend quite a bit of time in purgatory in order to atone for sins(but noone knows for sure- only God knows) so people like that would not be the same- they would be perfected and a saint

The only thing funnier than the clip is the comments of all the people who took it so seriously :)

Fantastic.

Regards,
Andy (an Atheist)

I believe that God is found by looking within ourselves. If you are an atheist ok fine, maybe one day you will come around. The universe is to vast and complex for it to just have appeared without a great creator and planner. Your very existence is critical to someones else's, therefore we all are important to each others developmental growth. Maybe this kids choice to be an Atheist is to help his parents in their acknowledgment of God. He helped his parents by saying that, because now their own faith will grow in their search to help him.

Many people believe the conspiracy theories that Jesus was just a puppet for the secret societies and just a fabrication to further control the populous, but if you are into the paranormal you will see that spirits that are stuck here on earth due to some unforeseen death want to go into the light, and paranormal investigators will tell you their experiences with Demonic and Angelic forces. When they perform a cleansing or exorcism they are in dealing with it, therefore it must exist. I encourage you to watch shows like Paranormal State on A&E and UFO Hunters. There is so much in this world and universe that we cannot grasp due to a predisposed belief that they cannot exist.

I think the kid got caught doing something else and it just lead toward religion no way does some one get that anger over one small thing I bet she also found out he got a girl pregnant or something.

Sally pretty much summed it up for me.

I wanted to see more. The video just cuts out in the middle of her sentence. I wanted to see what happened next!

I can't see anything wrong with the response. Seems appropriate for a Christian mother to be angry.

REAL_CHRISTIAN wrote:
July 20, 2008 at 01:53:21 AM

OKAY

F*CKING ATHEISTS!!!

YOU CAN 'NOT BELIEVE IN GOD'

BUT OUR GOD,

WILL F*CK YOU IN HELL!

RIGHT IN THE ASS

MWAAHAHAHAHAHA!


seee if your a good person but you don't believe in god he will have a temper tantrom and send you to hell were you suffer for eternity but if your a bad person like a misonary in the crusades and kill people for your religion like cristiany your a good person and you get prazed by the egotistical god

Not real you idiots. Look at how she turns him around in his chair. *sigh*

Wow that psycho woman sure is convincing....

Poor kid... I hope he doesn't turn like that woman.

Her total lack of education is frightening.

It so funny when people say, "I don't believe in heaven or hell, so I'm not going to heaven or hell." It's like saying, "I've never seen atoms, so I don't believe they exist." Atheists think they are the logical ones, but just as often they are as illogical as many religious people.

That doesn't make any sense Ryan. People not believing in Heaven or hell are disbelieving one man-written book, while people not believing in atoms are disbelieving a good portion of modern science.

ha ha ha, he keeps his ground till she says no presents, ha ha ha.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then why is their evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God
~Epicurus

http://techshore.wordpress.com/

God is Love. For everyone who says, "if you don't believe in this or that, you are going to hell", God is Love and forgiveness and joy. He loves us, and because of that love I wouldn't be surprised if he was waiting at the gates at the end giving us one more shot.

The mom had it right, what is this world coming to... To many times we allow our children to slip away from something so positive as Jesus. Perhaps she was going about it in the wrong manner with all the yelling because the kid was calm but God is a very important thing in a family and always has been. Who are you all to say how a person should raise their children anyway?

I think she handled it well.

Lmfao The dad isn't even saying anything while the mom is trying to be an uber control freak. Stupid bitch, people like her are the reason most of the Christians who are looked down upon are looked down upon.

Isn't that a bit hypocritical to curse towards her son like that in the first place, and pretty much just tell him that what he believes is wrong?

Go ahead and argue, I'm an atheist, and I think the reason atheists are attacking Christians suddenly is because they're sick of all the abuse they've had. Or maybe not, whatever, it's not going to end.

Jesus f***ing Christ.
These are the kind of people that I don't like.
I have nothing against religious people, unless they do stupid s*** like this.

Most "christian' holidays were FIRST Pagan, Druidic, Celtic, etc celebrations. They were later warped by the catholic church and other Christian faiths in effort to deter the originators from having a power and celebration of their own outside of the 'right' way christian faith. Sadly the MAJORITY of people that are followers of christ in it's multitude if religions do not accept the true and REAL history of the 'holidays' they celebrate. The only Christ based faith that seems to have a grasp on things are Jehovah's Witnesses...as there is no WRITTEN dates, of when exactly the events of the bible such as the birth of christ the death and rise of christ and so forth the celebration is not had. I am a pagan. However I read much on religion and theology, it is important to know FACTS before you argue points. If you are ill informed you just look like a fool. By the way...Pagans and Wiccans are NOT followers of this Satan demon Christians so obsessively accuse us of worshiping. How does one worship a deity that is not of one's faith? Ignorance must be nice as it focuses your anger and hatred at those who are not like you...making you less like your God and more like your Satan.

In the spirit of looking at history, people who read the Bible should realize that it is in no way a single work of religious literature. It was written over thousands of years by people of very different beliefs. If it contradicts itself it is only proof of human influence on it.

jesus= christmas= presents.

I love her logic, it's spot-on.

Good for that kid!

I am a believer. My teenage daughter isn't. When she told me, I told her that was fine. She is her own person with her own mind and is free to believe what she wishes.
My reaction was that way for two reasons: 1. if you push kids to think/do/feel something, they just dig in their heels about the issue and 2. she is not me. She is her own person and I cannot control how she thinks and feels. Nor would I want to.
The way I see it, I will love her no matter what she believes. She is my child. If she were gay, I'd love her. If she ended up in prison, I would love her. That doesn't mean I agree with all of her choices, but they are hers to make. I got my chance to make mine already. And I can love a person without condoning or loving everything they choose to do. My parents smoke. I think smoking is nasty. But I still love my parents. Same principle.

AUGH. Sounds like my mother.

I would like to address natedigity's point. There is no requirement for satirists to be fair. Neither is there any rule requiring Christians and their publications to include the atheist point of view. So,
I think we have a wash or, as poker players would term it, a push. If you think JC does not get good press, write your own blog or some damn thing. Get a life!!